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REVIEW - October 13, 2020. Please offer questions and concerns.

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Would you be interested in joining together in threads while watching the Trump-Biden debate?

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What is your biggest fear going forward?

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racism - anti-racism

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what is your passion?

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What do you feel you have to learn about fair trial? Do you feel that fair trial matters?

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Umbriel: Question: At base, dose the Bordenkircher holding make sense?
Porog: This is room 3, right??
Triangulum: hi, i didn
Triangulum: yes, right
Zavada: I disagree with the reason but not sure yet about the ultimate holding.
Rigel: I personally do not think the opinion makes sense as it is premised on the idea thet there can be no punishment or retaliation in a give and take negotiation
Andromeda: i can understand the logic but i think it’s exactly what we should be angry about when it comes to prosecutors abusing their powers
New Ironworks: have i arrived?
Porog: I'm with Blackmun on this one - I think it IS vindictive to acknowledge the appropriate charge and then raise it when the defendant refuses to take it
Zavada: @rigel I agree!
New Ironworks: The court seems to agree as well, just that there
New Ironworks: is no other way to do it.
Andromeda: and perhaps it’s why we should be having grand juries limit charges prosecutors can bring
Sateda: If this is what a prosecutor does to "abuse power" then how should a prosecutor act generally?
New Ironworks: At least if they had to announce their charge to the public they's have to really think they could prove it and face down the appearance of overcharging.
Starkiller Base: Defendant can't win. Prosecutor either upcharges and pleas down or downcharges and pleas up.
Starkiller Base: In a perfect world every case goes to trial and prosecutor asks for fair sentences
Sateda: fair and appropriate? these terms have no substance
New Ironworks: But doesn't he pay a political price for overcharging when it's up front?
Porog: ^not if people are fans of "tough on crime"
Rigel: I don't believe he does always as being tough on crime wins you political points
New Ironworks: Popular pressure seems like a wider form of nullification.
Zavada: There is no "give and take" if the prosecutor just takes.
Starkiller Base: in that case the prosecutor would overcharge anyway, no?
Porog: So the real issue is....unlimited discretion haha
Starkiller Base: Also one could say prosecutor isn't overcharging, he's just going by book. Doing D a favor by offering the deal
Sateda: Defendant can win by not committing a felony in the first place
Porog: This particular defendant Luyten? Or defendants in general
New Ironworks: If we imagine a grand jury to be a constraint on overcharging, and jury nullification a constraint on overcharging, then popular response to overcharging, by whatever standard the 'public' perception of overcharging is, will be at least some constraint of the prosecution.
Starkiller Base: Yet the grand juries almost always indict and the petite juries almost never nullify
New Ironworks: The court
Andromeda: hayes if i’m not mistaken also highlights the problem with mandatory minimum sentences and taking the power of sentencing discretion away from judges and giving it to the prosecutor
Andromeda: when do we go back into main group?
New Ironworks: concept of equality in bargaining power seems a joke: the prosecutor risks losing a case by reason of overcharging. the defendant risks prison or death penalty for going to trial.