Perhaps threads can work with Prof. Nesson knowing the identities of students so at lease there can be some accountability for harmful or abusive speech but will allow the robust conversation that threads is all about
I think the actual problem lies in the fact that some classmates don't practice emotional intelligence when other students are speaking. So like if I present an unpopular view it might be because I want to learn more about it – not because I believe it. I think people feel silenced when classmates groan or laugh or make faces at points raised in class
I love threads and love to read through and see thoughts on both sides of the aisle. I feel as if threads is like social media: it needs to be read with a filter. But, there are very worthwhile arguments made that I would be remiss had I not heard them.
I think part of why we're in this polarized situation, is Americans, as a culture, have avoided difficult discourse in favor of "never talk religion or politics" politeness. What happened, is that as a culture, Americans just constantly amplified their partisan voices louder and louder solely into those echo chambers of places who shared their religion and politics
I don't think threads is the issue. The concern about people feeling as if they cannot speak up in class is concerning, but it is also unfair to expect people to not display their contempt for conservative ideas right now. It's a symptom of where we are at as a country. They idea that someone is going to get cancelled for expressing a genuinely held conservative viewpoint is just not a real fear. We do need to make sure people get a chance to explain themselves fully though. I think the fear is in being misunderstood.
as a conservative who has made several close liberal friends here at HLS. I would never voice those same opinions in class. Fact is that threads and intimate conversations are the only safe places for dialogue right now. Not worth the reputation hit to actually say my views
I agree that people should be able to try on ideas in an academic environment. If a classroom isn't supposed to be where you can suss out what you believe, then where is? Moreover, it forces you to defend/think critically about your own ideas and (maybe?) change them with new information.
Censorship is a huge issue in this country. Just witness the recent Twitter, Facebook, etc. censoring of the New York Post (and the media blackout on it). I think the Hunter Biden story is irrelevant and silly. But the idea that media elites want to control what we can and cannot think/discuss is intolerable.
I've very much enjoyed using threads and engaging with you all through this method. It allows more voices to be heard than over Zoom. I agree, people should behave respectfully...and in my experience with Threads so far, everyone has
I also wonder if the privileged feel that they are not represented at all or if they just don't voice their opinions in this class. So they do take seats in the courts and they do have a president on their side right now and they do have strong organizations but they just don't speak here.
I think the conservative uproar over the hunter biden laptop is peak hypocrisy / wanting to have cake and eat it too. If you're gonna be the free market / anti-regulation party, can't get upset when the winners in the free market shut down some bullshit
I think the fair trial class actually demonstrated that threads works. without threads, we would have never known that people with conservative or more moderate viewpoints felt completely silenced in our class and were legit afraid that any comment or question that wasn't liberal enough would lead to them being cancelled or being labelled a racist/sexist/etc by peers. I didn't realize people felt that way. as for solutions to that problem? idk...
I guess this comes down to what we're calling a "conservative" idea. If you say that the slaves should never have been freed, then yes, you're getting cancelled. if you say that Roe v. Wade should be overturned because it's really an issue for the Legislature or the states, probably not.
Wolf 359 i couldn't care less about hunter biden stuff and they are probably a hoax but there have been many much less credible stories that Twitter let go unchecked. Again, you can argue that that is okay but don't say it doesn't happen
feel like we talk too much about whether people are silenced or not and not enough about why people feel silenced or trying to create an environment when nobody feels silenced – that environment shouldn't be hard (respect, emotional intelligence, and not personally attacking people i think does the trick)
Wolf, I agree. Give me an example of a reasonable conservative opinion that someone might justifiably not be willing to air out in class. Not saying they don't exist, just want a better idea of what we're talking about here.
Again, I once again want to mention that large parts of society getting upset at you for voicing unpopular opinions is not new. I do think we should be more charitable to people expressing contrary opinions but let's not buy into this theory that the things going on are new
Celestis, that's a tough one at Harvard, I'll give you that. Because you're brining up a point that in all likelihood would literals remove people from the conversation. So it's like, if I had my way, you wouldn't be here.
Sure. Follow the thread though. Someone suggested that the position does not work as an example because it is not actually reasonable hence necessitating those putting it forward to defend it as reasonable and thus eligible for purposes of the conversation
I dont think its a professor's responsibility to do as much, but by doing so the professor may provide a more thought provoking learning environment, potentially at his own expense....like an attorney held in criminal contempt by zealously advocating for her client